If you really don't believe in any kind of religion and truly don't care, why are so many of you here? For example, I'm not at all interested in sewing, so I never go to a sewing message board or chat room or answers page. I don't hate sewing, I just don't care about it. Another example - I don't believe in acupuncture, so I never go to acupuncture websites or message boards or anything concerning acupuncture. I don't hate it, I don't have a problem with someone else believing in it, I just really don't care about it. So many atheists say they don't even believe God exists and that they don't care about God or Satan or hell or anything spiritual (usually they single out Christianity). So if you don't care and don't even believe in any of it, then why are you always here? And SO MANY of you??? I'm truly curious. My best guess is that you're all very bitter and hateful of Christianity and religion to the point you have to act out and spend your time attacking it. Were you hurt?
Some people are trying to cause trouble... Some, on the other hand, may be undecided, or have legitamite doubts about their faith...
And I think that a lot of the answers aren't from people who hang out in this topic, but from people who are looking at the new questions posted in all topics... I know that's how I found your question...
I'm an atheist, but I have a distinct and rich spirituality. Which is entirely half of the section's name. Also, you are welcome to go through my answers and find any place where I have been hateful or attacked Christianity. My view of the spiritual prohibits me from doing so.
ETA: It's odd--I see many answers here attacking atheism. I don't quite understand why that's OK. Let's just make it no attacking across the board, okay?
Because we have a pool going on how many times this question will be asked each day.
I won last week and bought ice cream for everyone.
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THE LIE OF CHRISTIANITY HAS GONE ON TO LONG. We all have a voice and like you, we can express our lack of belief as you express your belief. We are here to open eyes and minds to reality around us not the fiction in your heads.
They don⠙t have a logical explanation why. They are cynical people. Look at all of their Q&A. it is not about them not believing in God, it is just them despising Christians for whatever reason. I say it is because of envy. Maybe we have something that they do not. Atheists seem to believe that Christians think that they are above atheists and arrogant. From this you can assume that maybe atheists feel as though they are inferior and Christians are the superior. If I despised someone enough, of course I would stalk them wherever they go, criticize them, insult them, curse, yell, make absurd assumptions that they are condescending when they make a statement, and whatever else. They do not like hearing the truth about themselves and say that we are the ones throwing the insults such as if you tell them that they are going to an "imaginary" place like hell. I mean, if you don⠙t believe in Neverland, why get offended if someone says you are going there if you don⠙t be good? Pretty silly. They do tones of research (on something they say is false and doesn⠙t exist) to contradict Christians. It is a total waste of their time and energy. There is nothing but cruel sarcasm from them and if we received a rational explanation of why they come to R&S, we wouldn⠙t have to keep asking this question time and time again. Why is it such a big deal if someone worships a God? Why should they care? I don⠙t care if Hindu⠙s worship an elephant. WHO CARES!!!! But most of them use ⠜religion is the cause for war and violence⠝ cliché and my favorite ⠜90% of scientists are atheists⠝ Geesh, there is more to life. I have a job. I have friends. I just do not understand where all of this immense hatred comes from. The bible says that the devil will try to manipulate to drive people away from God. Jesus lived through the same criticism, slander, blasphemy, and insults because we are followers of Christ, we will live through the same. Christians will be persecuted and in the end of days, the Devil and his followers will be the majority and God⠙s people will be the outcasts. Never forget that this is the price we pay for loving Christ and the devil is an angry being who despises God. Know that your reward for your faith and persecution is eternal bliss in Heaven. Roll with the punches on R&S because if you notice, atheists are the majority here and only attract their kind to answer each other⠙s question. You have to wonder why it is the way it is on R&S. God Bless!!!
By this reasoning no one would study or discuss ancient mythology - after all, who can believe that stuff?
You are making an unwarranted assumption that atheists are "not interested" in religion. I know of at least 2 outstanding biblical scholars who are atheists.
Another way to think about it is that you don't need to come down with cancer in order to be an oncologist.
Your comments about "bitterness" imply you have difficulty evaluating views that are not your own.
What a question! And I've seen this come up a gazillion times before too. As for your thing about straight answers - by my reckoning you got straight answers from Kiki-la, lisa, kc superstar, runamok, angk, bad liberal, eldad, ldawg, pferia, nh baritone, pangel, regmor, ateo persona, Jat, pheonix and jimmy j - so far. What is it that stops you from seeing what it doesn't suit you to see?
I'm out of this - I only find myself in this section if the question comes up in the open qustions section - and I'm agnostic. But believers like you make it very hard to take you seriously!
Oh, but you have made the assumption that not holding religious beliefs means you don't care about religion and spirituality, or that not caring about a specific religious belief system means you don't care about r & s.
In addition, the negative point of view is just as valid as the positive point of view in answering a question.
I am here to invalidate poor arguments and because the psychology of religious beliefs is fascinating to me. Others don't care about what you believe, but they care very much about how your beliefs affect their own lives (e.g. laws), and how misinformation has led many to their religious beliefs. Religion has given MANY people a reason to lash out at it.
The home page shows all topics. The athiests are only defending themselves from the constant assault by the christians.
I am a former Christian and enjoy the intellectual debate regarding it and the existence of God. People can have meaningful participation without being intimidated because the knowledge base needed to participate is minimal. Contrast this with a debate on health care issues, for instance.
I agree with you and think if you have no religion you shouldn't be able to go to that message board.
In todays life you cant find many people with religion. Even in our countries what do think there are rules of christianity no there is just one rule that is money and power. Just we have closed our minds and we just wana live how the life and other people are doing. We never go to find God because we think its boring and time waisting but there is God. the non believers just pretend there is not God but they know there is ,, i have met these type of many guys they are just angry and love to be different and careless. What do you think religion of our country is christianity ,, if it is then where is christianity no ,, we have guy father in church and child abusers free on roads and Jesus jokes in newspapers and other media. Is it religion .. In old times people changed holy books for thier own needs and for money and power. They have created this culture where no body think about religion just we are machines working for them and giving money back to them in wine booze. Why if we know many people get hurt even die just because of that then why . if its good them why they dont allow to drive and why many times we do have done bad things just because we were drunk. There is no country which is following any religion except jews. They love thier religion and even thier people and support them with full power and care. We all christians are just cattles for them we are giving our blood as soldiers for them, for thier religious needs. we as christians are just by name and we are nothing just a big religion. Even we dont have one book and even we our goverment policies are against bible. There is no concept of alcohol in bible and sex before marriage is not allowed but they have allowed because these things are part of our life so we dont think these are bad. Can you see why people are afraid to get married and why ratio of divorse is very high. Why goverment do follow religion. There is very powerful community which just think they are just best of God. So they have factories of wine and bear but they dont drink .. why why why....
They are all evil and satanic, they try to do satans bidding.
Accept christ, REPENT.
How many people try to force you to sew?
How many people try to get clothes stores shut down, so people would be forced to sew at home?
See the difference?
for "a reasonable, logical answer from any atheist/anti-religionist type" see "Bad Liberals" answer on the first page. That is the best answer. Ditto it for me.
And I find it hard to believe you went through all the times this question has been asked and havent found a adequate answer. I know its easier just to re-ask it, and there is nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't go and get all pisssy when people get sick of it.
When I respond I am usually looking at topics under the broader heading of Society and Culture. Sometimes questions relating to what I like to read or talk about come up under that heading because Religion and Spirituality is the sub-topic. I can only account for myself but I would suppose that other people might find it intellectually stimulating, politically relevant, reassuring if they feel alone in their beliefs, philosophically challenging, or maybe even just fun. Regardless of their reasons, it can't hurt anybody to have reasonable discourse on a topic that is considered to have a broader meaning than you are suggesting. Spirituality is quite broad in its meaning and interpretation and is not dependent upon religion to exist as a topic of discussion. As far as your examples go, we do not have money that says "In Sewing We Trust" or kids made to feel they have to say a pledge that contains the phrase "One Nation under Acupuncture". The point being, you bring up topics as examples that have little cultural importance. Religion and Spirituality have great cultural relevance because of how various groups may be trying to force their beliefs onto our children or into our lives. I have taken the time to answer this in a respectful and concise manner in order to help you understand.
We are three fold beings as God created us in His image and they come as the spirits they are starving drive them here in hopes of receiving some sustenance from the love God gives all us Christians.
nothing else is as fun to some people than putting down others spiritual beliefs. 'god is a pixie, god is a sky daddy'. PLZ.
A good atheist is one who spreads his or her message to the part of the human world that is to blame for all the trouble. Everyone knows that if you can't feel like you are better than at least the worlds worst people then what good are you anyway?
Atheists also know that they will not get into atheist heaven if they ignore this duty. They really are all about pleasing God but its part of their credo to keep that secret forever. Some people who are not card carrying atheists don't realize what the game is and as a result are deluded. They will never enter the kingdom.
Actually atheists are people who run out of steam on the God questions once they get to the part about the religions being, for the most part, the spreaders of myths. Once they hit the wall they are no good for anything. They cling to it for life or until they join the Church of Latter Day Saints.
Religion is not a private domain of the individual any longer. This means that people today are more likely to wear their religion on their sleeves for all to see. People do not observe religious practices alone or quietly any longer, they are usually observed throughout the community and culture at large. As such, people who do not believe or people who simply disagree with you are forced to make decisions about religion every single day. Since we all must live together and since some people insist on bringing their personal faith with them everywhere they go despite if it is welcome or not, some atheists and even non-conforming christians feel persecuted for not sharing the majorities opinions.
Also, while I do not share your beliefs, I come onto the religion and spirituality board so that I may try to help others who may have questions receive OPEN MINDED and FACTUAL answers (if I have them to supply). All too often, it is assumed that only one faith or one way of believing is the "right" way and thus, authentic voices regarding religion are swept away to further support the majority's opinions.
And lastly, this is not the "christianity" forum, it is the religion and spirituality forum. As such, respectful debate about different religions (and even a lack thereof) is appropriate to this area. As is discussion about spirituality which a person can experience without subscribing to one faith tradition or another. In fact, many of my atheist and agnostic friends do believe in a realm of spirituality without believing in a god, gods, or the christian conception of god.
It is not that we don't care. Obviously a great many of us do. It is what we care about that is different. We care about tolerance, compassion, sympathy, and many of us care deeply about education - especially educating closed-minded christians and others who haven't the slightest idea of what we, as human beings, are really like. In your efforts to set yourself apart from atheists and others, you are blinded by the fact that we are all essentially the same. We are all trying to find our own paths, we have just found different vehicles to travel down that path with.
I am here to educate people and I am not a christian. Though I don't consider myself an atheist, I think you are stereotyping and generalizing that group as a whole.
And, as a final note, not everyone who disbelieves christianity does so because they have had a bad experience or were "hurt." If that were true, then the same could be said about christians and other believers. Were you hurt by reality to the point where you had to adopt a legend and are now very bitter and hateful to those who don't? See, it's not true and sounds more than a bit arrogant and ignorant. Keep that in mind in the future, please.
Why are so many querents in this section incapable of using the search feature? If they did, they'd find that this question has been asked at LEAST a handful of times before.
EDIT: In response to your oh-so-clever comeback, why do you suppose that good reasons have NOT been given? You didn't search them out, now did you? lol And by the way, don't suppose that your use of "big" words is impressive. It IS a nice change from the usual illiteracy seen out here, but it doesn't really make your argument any more sound.
good question ! they must be doubting their beliefs huh ?
the christians do not owen the place and we are he to stop you brainwashing a planet with that 2000yrs old fairy tale
Atheism is a religion; they have a right to spread vent their satanic rage here; I appeal to all true Christians....Fight them!
We all have a soul which was made to be reunited with God. There is noting we can say or do which will change this. Rejecting this is like saying, " I do not believe in germs because I can not see them, so they must not exist." When nonbelievers and atheists come to this site, they are looking for God on a level they will not admit exists.
I wonder this myself but unfortunately, most will think you mean they cant be here or are unwelcome. But, like you I would like to know what there motive is to be here if they truely dont care? I dont know if I would go as far as to say they're all bitter... I spent time as an atheist but not because I was bitter but because it seemed unbelievable and sometimes it can still be. Id personally like to think some of them, even if they dont believe, hope to find a reason to. Sometimes I think the loud shouts of "How can you believe there is a God... it's a fairy tail!!!" are really disguised cries for "Please prove me wrong"
I dont mind them here, some ask some very good questions but Id also really like to know the motives of the individuals.
Without non-believers, there could not be believers.
I don't go to a specific topic to look at the questions...I look through the open questions. The only time I answer a question the in religon/spirituality topic is when it is asking about atheism, like this one :-)
Because I want to monitor the efforts of Christians to impose a theocracy on the United States.
Christians have attempted to change school curricula to reflect their faith, to impose restrictions on women's bodies, to jail and restrict the rights of homosexuals, to force tax payers to support religious institutions against our will, to impose prayer in public places, and to prevent atheists and non-Christians from having a place in government.
These I will oppose with most vociferously!
Religion is something that affects everyone. It is a part of culture and society everywhere. I choose to be in the Society and Culture section at all times, and sometimes when I see a question regarding religion that sparks my interest, I will answer it.
Religion is a large part of my life, it always has been. I am interested in all Religions, but I choose to follow none. What interests me the most is why people need religion, or the feeling of a deity. I am in the process of researching religion and its effects on people. So it has nothing to do with me "not caring about god".
I have no hate towards Christians, but the religion itself. It is very contradictory, and very debilatating. It's history is littered with rape, murder of innocents, deception, and cruelty. You may say otherwise, but it is actual documented history.
I was never hurt by Christians, I have come to the conclusion that religion is false, and deities do not exist on my own accord, at the tender age of 12.
Now I am 21.
Just because they are atheist doesn't mean they can't come on here, it is not just for christians.
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